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Maybe it's partly jealousy, but that doesn't make it the truth. However, just as you are looking to not be judged by your cover and attract guys who might traditionally be attracted to seafching type of woman, don't judge other women by what's on the outside.

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I need to live outside my brain a little and more in my body, and start working on projecting this message. It would be a double standard to ask guys to be attracted to my mind and my "whatever, meh" appearance while asking them to be brilliant and confident in being a male.

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While you're out there, try to make some more girlfriends. I get the impression you don't have many, or the ones you have are all of the same type. There are some really smart really interesting "girly" girls out there that might teach you something about the value of female friendship, or at least help you break down your internal stereotypes. And I promise you, to survive dating in your early 20s, you are going to want some good female friendship.

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Where am I going to be in two years? What am I going to be doing?